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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:04 am 
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I made a flight plan from cyvr to kiah. I will attach a copy of the plan. It loaded in ASN and iFly 739er just fine. But when I tried to load in fsx the enter button was grayed out. I looked at the plan and didn't see anything out of the ordinary. However, I was using the DRLLR1 star into kiah. You can get the chart at Airnav or flightaware. The funny thing is that all the waypoints in airnav was showing them as non existant. I also use fltplan.com, and was able to get the coordinates from there. I use ade for my afcad's and put the stars in there. I put in all the waypoints that was being used for the flight and still fsx wouldn't load the fp. Can any one look at it and see if it's something else? I've had other approaches added and fsx would still load the plan.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:02 am 
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Hi,

I looked at your plan and put the route string and runways into FSBuild and generated a FSX plan from it. I had no problem loading that plan into FSX, although several of the waypoints were recognized as type "other" rather than VORs.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:29 pm 
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I tested the plan.
I had the same problem as the OP when the plan was Exported from Fsbuild as an "XML" plan to FSX.

Fsbuild has always had problems with the xml format not working in FSX and showing VORs as "other" in the FSX navlog when exporting in PLN format.

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Hi, Vaughn

I had no trouble importing the XML plan to FSX. Here it is:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>CYVR to KIAH</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>CYVR</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N49° 11' 40.00" , W123° 11' 02.00",</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>KIAH</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N29° 59' 03.00" , W95° 20' 29.00",</DestinationLLA>
<Descr>CYVR, KIAH</Descr>
<DeparturePosition>26R</DeparturePosition>
<DepartureName>VANCOUVER_INTL</DepartureName>
<DestinationName>HOUSTON/GEORGE_BUSH_INTERCONT</DestinationName>
<AppVersion>
<AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
<AppVersionBuild>60905</AppVersionBuild>
</AppVersion>
<ATCWaypoint id="CYVR">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N49° 11' 40.00",W123° 11' 02.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>CYVR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="HUH">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N48° 56' 43.00",W122° 34' 45.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>HUH</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="GEG">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N47° 33' 53.00",W117° 37' 36.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>GEG</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DLN">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N45° 14' 54.00",W112° 32' 49.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DLN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BOY">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N43° 27' 47.00",W108° 17' 58.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BOY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="CYS">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 12' 39.00",W104° 46' 22.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>CYS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="LBL">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N37° 02' 39.00",W100° 58' 16.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>LBL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SPS">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N33° 59' 14.00",W98° 35' 36.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SPS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MQP">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N32° 43' 34.00",W97° 59' 50.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MQP</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="TORNN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 31' 13.00",W96° 30' 52.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>TORNN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="REFYN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 16' 01.00",W96° 21' 35.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>REFYN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="OILLL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 00' 11.00",W96° 11' 57.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>OILLL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DPLAN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 51' 27.00",W96° 06' 19.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DPLAN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SSTAX">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 42' 41.00",W96° 00' 41.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SSTAX</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MPORT">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 29' 31.00",W95° 52' 17.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MPORT</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DRLLR">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 21' 26.00",W95° 44' 19.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DRLLR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="PTROL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 13' 48.00",W95° 36' 56.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>PTROL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DOMNO">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 05' 33.00",W95° 29' 01.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DOMNO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DOOOM">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 05' 33.00",W95° 13' 37.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DOOOM</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="KIAH">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N29° 59' 03.00",W95° 20' 29.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>KIAH</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
</FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:33 pm 
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This is mine and it did not load into FSX:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
<Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
<FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
<Title>CYVR to KIAH</Title>
<FPType>IFR</FPType>
<RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
<CruisingAlt>25000</CruisingAlt>
<DepartureID>CYVR</DepartureID>
<DepartureLLA>N49° 11' 40.00" , W123° 11' 02.00",</DepartureLLA>
<DestinationID>KIAH</DestinationID>
<DestinationLLA>N29° 59' 04.00" , W95° 20' 29.00",</DestinationLLA>
<Descr>CYVR, KIAH</Descr>
<DeparturePosition>GATE 7 -- GATE MEDIUM</DeparturePosition>
<DepartureName>VANCOUVER_INTL</DepartureName>
<DestinationName>GEORGE_BUSH_INTERCONTINENTAL/H</DestinationName>
<AppVersion>
<AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
<AppVersionBuild>60905</AppVersionBuild>
</AppVersion>
<ATCWaypoint id="CYVR">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N49° 11' 40.00",W123° 11' 02.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>CYVR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="HUH">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N48° 56' 43.00",W122° 34' 45.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>HUH</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="GEG">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N47° 33' 53.00",W117° 37' 36.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>GEG</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DLN">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N45° 14' 54.00",W112° 32' 49.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DLN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BOY">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N43° 27' 47.00",W108° 17' 58.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BOY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="CYS">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N41° 12' 39.00",W104° 46' 22.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>CYS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="LBL">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N37° 02' 39.00",W100° 58' 16.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>LBL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SPS">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N33° 59' 14.00",W98° 35' 36.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SPS</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MQP">
<ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N32° 43' 34.00",W97° 59' 50.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MQP</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="TORNN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 31' 13.00",W96° 30' 52.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>TORNN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="REFYN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 16' 01.00",W96° 21' 35.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>REFYN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="OILLL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N31° 00' 11.00",W96° 11' 57.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>OILLL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DPLAN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 51' 27.00",W96° 06' 19.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DPLAN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SSTAX">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 42' 41.00",W96° 00' 41.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SSTAX</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="MPORT">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 29' 31.00",W95° 52' 17.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>MPORT</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DRLLR">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 21' 26.00",W95° 44' 19.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DRLLR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="PTROL">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 13' 48.00",W95° 36' 56.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>PTROL</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="DOMNO">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N30° 05' 33.00",W95° 29' 01.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>DOMNO</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="BYSUN">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N29° 58' 47.00",W95° 22' 16.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>BYSUN</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="SMOCR">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N29° 53' 30.00",W95° 17' 01.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>SMOCR</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="PRAYY">
<ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N29° 53' 29.00",W95° 11' 27.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>PRAYY</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
<ATCWaypoint id="KIAH">
<ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
<WorldPosition>N29° 59' 04.00",W95° 20' 29.00",</WorldPosition>
<ICAO>
<ICAOIdent>KIAH</ICAOIdent>
</ICAO>
</ATCWaypoint>
</FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>

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Follow up on my tests:

Flight plan created with FSX flight planner is XML and it shows VORs as VORs in the navlog.

FSBuild creatd FSX XML flight plan does not load into FSX (for me or the OP).

FSBuild created PLN format (non-XML) loads into FSX but navlog shows VORs as "Other".

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This the old gate 7 thing... change this <DeparturePosition>GATE 7 -- GATE MEDIUM</DeparturePosition> to this <DeparturePosition></DeparturePosition>. There is no gate 7 at CYVR in FSX and as a consequence the plan won't load. I suspect the OP is having the same problem. To avoid this in the future, open the fsb_pref_rwy.txt file and change CYVR 26L 26R GATE 7 -- GATE MEDIUM to just CYVR 26L 26R. That's the only airport with this issue.

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DJ,

I do not fly cyvr .. was just checking the OPs reported problem ..

Yep, that edit fixed the loading of the cyvr XML plan in FSX.

The VORs still show up as "other" in the FSX navlog. Same as you mentioned previously.

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Got to admit I have no idea why some of the VORs show up as type 'other' in the FSX plan - those that do have been around for years and there's nothing special about them...

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I was comparing the one that wouldn't load to one of the replies and noticed that for start position, mine had gate 7 medium. I don't know where that came from. It should have been 26R. Maybe that was the problem and not any of the waypoints. I'll check it out later.

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It was the problem - please read my posts above.

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