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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:14 pm 
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Hello Ernie, i have two questions for you...

1- i doing the navdata update but now at LSGG and LFMN i have no sid and stars i not understand why....

2- i have also make an update from navigraph for try and the new VOR is not appears on FSBUILD why...i have make in seetings a rebuild database ...but always nothing...


thanks ou very much for your help..


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:11 pm 
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snaker wrote:
Hello Ernie, i have two questions for you...
1- i doing the navdata update but now at LSGG and LFMN i have no sid and stars i not understand why....


They should be there, they are in mine. Try rebuilding the indexes.

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2- i have also make an update from navigraph for try and the new VOR is not appears on FSBUILD why...i have make in seetings a rebuild database ...but always nothing...


The Navigraph update is for fsbuild 1.x

The Fsbuild Navdata is located at fsbuild.com

Regards.
Ernie.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:25 pm 
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ok Ernie i have make a indexes in Option:Navdata and Created navdata indexes and now i have stars for lfmn and lsgg but always no sid for lfmn and lsgg i dont understand why


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:42 pm 
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Hi,

I had the same problem.

For LFMN the problem is that runways in the FSB_SIDS.txt file are 04L, 04R, 22L and 22R.
In the Fsb_apts.txt file, LFMN runways are 05L, 05R, 23L and 23R.

I think the runways numbers have changed and the Fsb_apts.txt file has not been updated.

According to the official french airport site, the runways for LFMN are 04 and 22 :
http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/aip/enligne/fr/..%5CPDF_AIPparSSection%5CVAC%5CAD%5C2%5C0612_AD%202.LFMN.pdf

If you replace the line beginning by LFMN in your Fsb_apts.txt file by this one it should be Ok :
LFMN COTE_D_AZUR 13 N43:39:37 E07:13:03 04L_9679_N43:39:00_E07:12:24_045_--- 04R_9712_N43:39:00_E07:12:24_056_--- 22L_9712_N43:40:00_E07:13:79_236_--- 22R_9679_N43:40:00_E07:13:83_225_---

For LSGG the problem is that the SIDs refers to the runways numbers without L or R.
If you add the L and R in the FSB_SIDS.txt file it should work.
Open this file, search for [LSGG] and in the lines below, replace the 05 at the end of lines by 05L,05R and the 23 by 23L,23R
For example the first line after [LSGG] will be :
T ARBO1P ARBO1P 05L,05R


Ernie : you said the SID were in your FS Build. Maybe you didn't put your last files in the update package ?
I downloaded the update from fsbuild.com and the date of the files that are not correct are :
fsb_apts.txt 08/29/2006 06:44pm
fsb_sids.txt 08/28/2006 09:21pm

Hope it helps.

Regards.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:29 am 
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and so many other problem, When fsbuild is full compatible with navdata from navigraph?
When is compatible we have no more problem between all addon only one source for update that is the solution...because now we have this problem and many other, fsbuild have a old sid and stars and no the new airways like navigraph fsbuild is not always updated...

please ohhhhhhhhhhhh please make fsbuild fully compatible with navigraph.....


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:57 pm 
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Dear Mr. snaker ,
you wrote
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and so many other problem, When fsbuild is full compatible with navdata from navigraph?
When is compatible we have no more problem between all addon only one source for update that is the solution...because now we have this problem and many other, fsbuild have a old sid and stars and no the new airways like navigraph fsbuild is not always updated...

please ohhhhhhhhhhhh please make fsbuild fully compatible with navigraph.....
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Pardone Sir, which exatly "many other problem" have you got ?
All files regarding SIDs, STARs, AIRWAYs are in very easy format - txt files. You can edit their yourself or maybe Ernie should provide chargable navdata's service for FSB, shouldn't he ?

I noticed that many simmers haven't bought navigraph product and they aren't going to buy in future - there is a new idea for freeware navdata prepared by vacc's. So...

Regards
Gwidon


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