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After about 10 times of reading of docs. - mostly the config settings pdf and the readme - I have not yet managed to understand a single word of how to install these gauges. Most of the txt is like 'chineese' to me. I do f.i. not understand a bit of the '5th parameter'-talk.

Furthermore the template installer - which was the hope for me - do not open work at all. It does not open.

Why is there not a step to step guide - a sort of tutorial for installing this gauges in one aircraft. First you do that, then that, then that....

I will now uninstall the ISG and consider the money as lost. I will suggest, that you state in the simmarket, that this gauges is for FS or PC experts - not ordinary users.

It's a pitty Sir. But...I do not agree with your statement :"Totally waste of money".
If you really need - I can refund you your money but please, never-ever write about ISG1 "Totally waste of money".


Gwidon

OK - I was (am) angry about the complete lack of useable information about installing. And a 'template installer', which just does not work. So for this reason it is wate og money - not the product itself I asume. Looks very exciting. But that does not help, when the install-information is too tecnical to understand.

I do not care for the money - will I think be difficult to return. I would much more have wantet a 'atep-by-step' understandable instruction.

There is such a tutorial in the 'readme' file, there are step by step instructions there to install one of trhe gauges in the Lear45 by replacing the Lear EFIS with the MFD.

But of course no-one reads the readme file.



That's up to you, but if you change your mind we'll be here to help you
get it set up. After all you did pay for it.

Regards.
Ernie.

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If you look in the template files themselves, you will see all the aircraft.cfg and the panel.cfg settings for those aircraft. You can just copy/paste those settings into the appropriate files.

Understandable its a little frustrating if you have zero experience installing gauges into aircraft.

For those with no experience editing panel.cfg files I recommend using a 3rd party program such as FS Panel studio which has a drag and drop interface for installing gauges into panels.

Or post here the aircraft.cfg and the panel.cfg file for the aircrcraft you wish to install it in, and I can send you a modified version of the file with the gauges installed. That probably can at least get you started.

Regards.
Ernie.

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I DID read the readme - as I also stated in my first frustrated posting. And yes - of course I could put a gauge or two in the Learjet following the 'readme' - but what about the icons to call the MCU or FMS? And there must be a reason for writing so much about the 5th parameter - I just do not understand a single word.

You should se it this way - not alone must I understand the install-description - I also have to translate it from english to danish, and some of the terms are so specialized, that I do not understand the meaning of them.

Thankyou for your kind offer let me send you the cfg-files, and you will do the installing. I just have to know which files, how to send them - and what to do with them, when they come back to me.

I think you should consider a detailed tutorial for installation - I expected such one. Or - even better - an exe. install program, where you can choose which airplanes to upgrade.

I was just responding to what was said in your post.
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That didn't indicate that you had in fact already successfully installed 'one' gauge in the lear and that you wanted information about installing the others. I had no choice based on that information to presume you had not tried the quick start tutorial in the readme page (even though you said you had read the readme file). So I mentioned that there was a short step by step tutorial in the readme.

But the point of mentioning only one gauge was to keep that quick start guide short and sweet and not overburden you with too much detail.

The concept being If you can install one gauge, then you can install the others because the concept is the same for all gauges when it comes to editing panel.cfg files.



The icons are optional, some people use icons some people don't. So I did not intially go into much detail with them. However other customers have agreed with you, more information was needed as to the the other available ISG sub-gauges,

The settings manual was updated to provide more information on this, see the link below.

http://www.isgsim.com/dl/ISG_Settings.pdf (scroll down to page eight)



The 5th parameter is not mandatory. It works just fine without it.

There are 3 purposes for the 5th parameter.

1) Allows the use of specific information and settings to be applied for that specified aircraft (from the defaults).

2) Helps improve display performance by telling ISG what gauges are where (ie which gauges are in windows and which gauges are in Victual Cockpits etc).

3) Is used with the Flight Logging functions (an advanced feature we're not going to burden the details on with beginners).

But the 5th parameter is viewed mostly as an advanced feature, we certainly can't expect novices to spend a lot of time with this without first getting the gauges installed and working first.

And this underscores my point about burdening you with too much info. Yoiu have focused on information not required to get you started because it was there to view.



It would be the aircraft.cfg file, and the panel.cfg file for that particular aircraft.

Youd have to look in your FS9 or FSX aircraft (or airplane) folder for the exact location of these as they will differ with each aircraft.

Then either post them here on the forum or email them to me (alstoer1@compuserve.com).

Note: I'm not home this week (I'm in LA and PHX until Feb 10th), so I can't be much help with FSX as I do not have that installed on my laptop.



It is there, its called the template Installer.

But for some reason it is not able to install on your system. Based on your description it would appear the ocx is not being registered.
That could mean that the security or privieleges on your system is not allowing that control to be installed in your current account.
Do you have admin priv's on your machine ? if not, that could be the reason.

The name of the control is 'Msflxgrd.ocx'. Look in your system folder and see if it is there, if so then try and register it manually and see if that resolves the template installer problem.

And again even if you are not able to get the template installer to work.
The template file itself has all the aircraft.cfg and panel.cfg information inside of it.

You merely have to open it with a text editor to view it. you'll see there the 'entire' panel.cfg information in there. You could simply copy/paste all the information into a new panel.cfg file, and use it in that aircraft.

You're asking for a step by step tutorial, when there's 6 complete panel install examples waiting for you to look at in the fs9/isg/templates folder. (and don't forget the template files available on the isg website). Complete with several examples of the various sub-gauges installed including the icon buttons. Just search the files for the text 'ISG1' and you'll see them.

See the screenshot of the Lear template below.

Regards
Ernie.

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I had ZERO expirience with dealing with gauges and panels but I had been waiting for such an addon for ages! After some fantastic support (thanks to Ernie) and literally 5 mins of reading, I can use these gauges on practically ANY panel, just get FS Panel Studio, I recommend that, and dont act emotionally.. leave that to your wife or girlfriend

Thankyou, thankyou and thankyou. Now I have a couple of days time to go into the matter again with 'new eyes'. I think I will go and get the 'Panel Studio' and see if that helps as Abbas write.

By the way - the 'Msflxgrd.ocx' is in my system. But the templateinstaller still do not work.

And finally - as psychotherapist I professionally think, that emotions not only are for wifes and girlfriends. But thanks for your suggestion.

SO - now I invested in the FS Panel Studio. And installed the ISG1 MFD in the Bombardier CRJ700. All I get is a message; "ERR. Startuperror !! Uable to start ISG1. Reinstall ISG1 Program". Reinstalling - same message. So now I have used a little more money - and have an aircraft less to fly in the FSX.

Its the same problem as with the template installer. The Installer for some reason is not able to fully register all the components on your machine.

But here is something to try. Try the FSX installer that came with it. but browse and select your FS9 folder for the install location. Can't explain why but that method has worked for a couple of people who had this problem.

But again make sure you have admin privileges on the install machine.

Regards.
Ernie.

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Ernie

The msflxgrd.ocx is there in my system.
I have all the time used the FSX-installer because my simulator is FSX (not 9).
I have the admin.rights of the computer.

So, what do we do? Will it make any difference to send you some cfg files to modify for me, and then se if it helps?

Anyway, I will mail you the aircraft.cfg and the panel.cfg of my CRJ700. Try to fix that. I want call-buttons for the FMS and the MCU.

Mogens

Just because its there, does not mean it is registered. Most .ocx's have to be registered to work in WinXP.

There is a way to do this manually at the command line, using the 'regsvr32' program.




Ok then, try the reverse. Run the FS9 Installer, then Browse and select your FSX folder as your install location. This has worked for some people as to why we have no explanation.

Regards.
Ernie.

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I found on the web an exact description of manually reg. of the msflxgrd.ocx. You should write the following in the commandline: regsvr32 \windows\system32\msflxgrd.ocx. Then I got a message, that the reg. was succesfully. And now the templateinstaller opens. If this has a positive impact on the other problems, I dont know yet. I'll be back with news.

OK - all gauges were installed now, using the template-installer. But all have the message: ERR. Startuperror !! Uable to start ISG1. Reinstall ISG1 Program.

What do I do now? I do not have the installprogram for the FS9 - only the one for FSX.