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 Post subject: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:00 am 
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Hi all

I am looking for all subject on your forum, but i cannot find any solution for my wilco crj200.

Problem :

It does'nt follow LNAV indication , i turn ap "on", HDG"on".

Solution :

I can see that solution is existing BUT

I dont have WP_CRJ200 in my aircraft.cfg on ISG folder

I appreciate if you could explain again precisly how to make him work

Thanks a lot


Jean


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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:19 am 
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Nobody know ???


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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:58 am 
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Hi guys

no response does anybody from isg's staff could answer just to say ok it do not work it's normal ?.?????

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Jean


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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:50 am 
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Hi Jean, the reason for it not working is because the wilco addon uses an customized autopilot not using the standard heading hold feature that standard fs autopilot uses.

ISG uses the standard heading hold feature to adjust headings, and since the ap of wilco crj dont use it it wont work. For it to work you would have to change the autopilot gauge to another one.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:04 am 
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Hi Jantorre

and thanks for your answer..

ISG's team don't need to put this cokpit on retrovit's if it does'nt work....

Does anybody have a panel.cfg (with an another autopilot gauge )merge isg wilco crj working ?

Thanks a lot

jean


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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:22 am 
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AIB1002 wrote:
Hi Jantorre

and thanks for your answer..

ISG's team don't need to put this cokpit on retrovit's if it does'nt work....

Does anybody have a panel.cfg (with an another autopilot gauge )merge isg wilco crj working ?

Thanks a lot

jean



It doesn't work because the Wilco CRJ's autopilot has some custom features that interfere with the ISG LNAV function.

The Wilco CRJ constantly updates the planes heading which in effect overrides any ISG settings sent to the autopilot.

Blame that on Wilco, its how they designed it. But the gauges can be added to the panel so the retrofit is posted.

However in a later version (I can't remember which one) we added a workaround with the 'ResetApHdg=1' setting in the AircraftId.cfg file. That basically constantly resets the hdg
after the Wilco CRJ does it. it ends up as a constantly back and forth each FS cycle but the last input in the cycle is the ISG input so that sticks.

These settings were not added to the retrofit file as not everyone would want to go through such lengths to override the Wilco CRJ's autopilot. So we merely posted the panel.cfg as a straight gauge upgrade.

See this thread for more details for workarounds to use the Wilco CRJ-200.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2067

To be clear we do not guarantee an ISG upgrade will work in every aircraft, everyone works differently has has their own autopilot customizations.

Regards.
Ernie.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:19 pm 
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Here is my panel CFG for the Wilco CRJ-700. The only anomoly I have found it the HDG indicator on th ND can be a little slow but the PFD works fine along with LNAV and VNAV.. Note second half. This needs to be added to the ISG1 Aircraft Config file. This panel cfg also included the panel switcher gauge available from Avsim: crjpnladdon.zip.
This could easily be adapted to the 200 & 900 Variants.
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// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Tuesday, July 26, 2011 at 13:05 FSPS Build:22737

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=FMS
Window02=Center Pedestal
Window03=Display Control Panel
Window04=Overhead Panel
Window05=Primary Flight Display
Window06=Navigation Display
Window07=Engine Display
Window08=System Display
Window09=EFSI CNTRL
Window10=isg1 fms
Window11=ISG1 MCU
Window12=ND LARGE


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,11,12,100,101,102,105

VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.800
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=3.000, 0.000, 0.000



//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=panel_700900.bmp
size_mm=1152
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=6
visible=1
ident=0

gauge00=CRJ700!System, 1151,863,1,1,
gauge01=CRJ700!Lower Night Panel, -1,284,1152,580
gauge02=CRJ700!PFD, 29,553,205,260
gauge03=CRJ700!PFD Brightness, 0,535,20,21
gauge04=CRJ700!ND Brightness, 269,537,20,20
gauge05=CRJ700!Autopilot, 533,314,619,95
gauge06=CRJ700!Engine Display, 582,465,208,248
gauge07=CRJ700!ED Brightness, 560,445,20,20
gauge08=CRJ700!Warnings, 140,310,273,96
gauge09=CRJ700!System Display, 934,463,201,248
gauge10=CRJ700!SD Brightness, 912,444,20,20
gauge11=CRJ700!ISI, 814,551,99,98
gauge12=CRJ700!Upper Night Panel, 0,0,1152,284
gauge13=CRJ700!Lights, 560,0,263,75
gauge14=CRJ700!Signs, 1085, 30 ,67,42
gauge15=CRJ700!Standby Compass, 904,84,84,84
gauge16=isg1!PROLINE4_MFD_NB, 295,557,209,256,CRJ700
gauge17=isg1!FMS_OPEN, 824,664,26,26
gauge18=isg1!MCU_OPEN, 850,664,26,27
gauge19=isg1!EFIS_CTRL_OPEN, 876,664,26,27
gauge20=CRJPnlAddOn!CRJ Panel Switch, 822,705,84,26
gauge21=isg1!SERVER, 3,2,20,20
gauge22=ISG1_TCAS!Logic, 25,3,20,20
gauge23=isg1!VNAV, 483,368,45,34
gauge24=isg1!LNAV, 483,319,44,34


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=352,578
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=11
window_size= 0.306, 0.672
window_pos= 0.695, 0.330

gauge00=CRJ700!FMS, 0,0,352,578


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
file=crjpedestal.bmp
size_mm=598,777
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=13
window_size= 0.519, 0.899
window_pos= 0.176, 0.101

gauge00=CRJ700!Night Pedestal, 0,0,598
gauge01=CRJ700!Throttle, 250,25,188
gauge02=CRJ700!Flaps, 493,149,68
gauge03=CRJ700!Spoilers, 175,32,55
gauge04=CRJ700!Trim, 310,590,287
gauge05=CRJ700!RTU, 19,296,289
gauge06=CRJ700!Audio, 19,486,290
gauge07=CRJ700!Page Select, 308,382,290
gauge08=CRJ700!Yaw Damper, 308,685,289
gauge09=isg1!LNAV, 340,306,26,25
gauge10=isg1!VNAV, 339,345,26,24
gauge11=CRJPnlAddOn!CRJ Panel Switch, 421,325,106,25


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=300,350
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=12
window_size= 0.300, 0.350
window_pos= 0.395, 0.650

gauge00=CRJ700!Display Control Panel, 0,0,300,350


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1152,664
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=14

gauge00=CRJ700!Overhead, 0,0,1152,664


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=196,230
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=100
nomenu=0
window_size= 0.330, 0.520
window_pos= 0.000, 0.480

gauge00=CRJ700!PFD, 0,0,196,230


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=360,436
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=101
nomenu=0
window_size= 0.350, 0.520
window_pos= 0.330, 0.480

gauge00=CRJ700!ND, 0,0,360,436


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=360,436
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=102
nomenu=0
window_size= 0.312, 0.520
window_pos= 0.680, 0.480

gauge00=CRJ700!Engine Display, 0,0,360,436


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window08]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=360,436
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=103
nomenu=0
window_size= 0.312, 0.520
window_pos= 0.680, 0.480

gauge00=CRJ700!System Display, 0,0,360,436


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window09]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=576,432
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=4013
window_size= 0.230, 0.200
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=isg1!PROLINE4_MFD_CTRL, 0,1,574,254
gauge01=isg1!PROLINE4_AUX_CTRL, 0,256,575,176
gauge02=isg1!LNAV, 170,44,53,50
gauge03=isg1!VNAV, 340,45,54,51


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window10]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=576,432
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=4004
window_size= 0.270, 0.500
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=isg1!SMITHS_FMS, 0,0,573,429


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window11]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=576,432
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=4001
window_size= 0.220, 0.180
window_pos= 0.780, 0.820

gauge00=isg1!MCU_LM, 2,0,573,430


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window12]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=576,432
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=4018
window_size= 0.220, 0.340
window_pos= 0.240, 0.630

gauge00=isg1!PROLINE4_MFD_NB, 1,1,573,428,WN


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel1

gauge00=CRJ700!PFD, 20,5,215,240


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel2

gauge00=isg1!PROLINE4_MFD_NB, 20,10,215,240


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel3

gauge00=CRJ700!Engine Display, 20,10,215,240


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=128,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel4

gauge00=CRJ700!Yaw Damper, 35,145,31,19


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel5

gauge00=CRJ700!Display Control Panel, -1,0,258,260


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel6

gauge00=CRJ700!Autopilot, 38,0,475,510
gauge01=isg1!LNAV, 2,17,32,188
gauge02=isg1!VNAV, 2,291,33,172


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel7

gauge00=CRJ700!FMS, 17,0,221,256


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit08]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel8

gauge00=CRJ700!System Display, 20,10,215,240


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit09]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel9

gauge00=CRJ700!ISI, -50,-46,350,350


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit10]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel10

gauge00=CRJ700!Warnings, -2,-3,260,82


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit11]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel11

gauge00=CRJ700!Standby Attitude, 0,5,251,250


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit12]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel12

gauge00=CRJ700!RTU, 0,0,512,377


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit13]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel13

gauge00=CRJ700!Audio, 0,0,512,407


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit14]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel14

gauge00=CRJ700!Engine Switches, 0,0,512,175


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit15]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel15

gauge00=CRJ700!Page Select, 0,0,512,240


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit16]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=512,512
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel16

gauge00=CRJ700!Trim, 0,0,512,180


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit17]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$panel17

gauge00=CRJ700!Overhead, 0,0,1024,555


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit18]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=128,256
visible=0
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$panel20

gauge00=CRJ700!Standby Compass, 0,-20,130,280



[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=100,100,100
Luminous=255,255,255

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=2600

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Add below to SIM\ISG1\Aircraft
Name : CRJ700.cfg

;CRJ_700 config
ClimbTas=300
ClimbRate=2000
DescentTas=300
DescentRate=2000
FPA=3.0
MaxCruise=41000
MaxVnavDescRate=3500
MaxVnavClimbRate=3000
MinVnavIas=135
MinVNavRadioAlt=500
ParkingFile=Parking.txt
MFDTextAntiAlias=0
HoldLegMins=1.5
ModelId=CRJ700
ResetApHdg=1
PROLINE4MFDMode=3


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 Post subject: Re: Wilco CRJ Panel Retrofit don't work
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:42 pm 
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torkermax wrote:
Here is my panel CFG for the Wilco CRJ-700. The only anomoly I have found it the HDG indicator on th ND can be a little slow but the PFD works fine along with LNAV and VNAV.. Note second half. This needs to be added to the ISG1 Aircraft Config file. This panel cfg also included the panel switcher gauge available from Avsim: crjpnladdon.zip.
This could easily be adapted to the 200 & 900 Variants.



I did manage the panel to work!

But I have experienced one problem, that is when I set takeoff thrust, the engines go back to idle even I am att full throttle, Autothrottle is deactivated, what can I do to fix this problem??

Nice retrofit as well and it is working perfectly EXCEPT this problem :)

Please give me a hint of how I can fix this :)


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