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 Post subject: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:27 pm 
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Hy, I'm new to this product, I have iSG 1.6.....I recently tried to add the FMC to 2 planes but the following problems appear

1. Overland A380 - iSG Gauges have been installed successfully, every gauge appears in the panel, the FMC does too but I can't set the IRS position...in the PMDG 747 for example, the NAV Buttons should be set to ALIGN to be able to set the IRS Position but there are no such buttons in the Overland A380...if I set a waypoint, it won't be displayed in the FMC however, if I press the LNAV Button in the MCU, the planes seems to follow the right path even though no path appears in the Navigation Display

2. Area 51 C-17 - do I need any additional add-ons except the iSG Gauges because when I use the panel.cfg from this website, all my gauges are black.

Thank you, I hope someone will help me fix this problems


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:01 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
Hy, I'm new to this product, I have iSG 1.6.....I recently tried to add the FMC to 2 planes but the following problems appear

1. Overland A380 - iSG Gauges have been installed successfully, every gauge appears in the panel, the FMC does too but I can't set the IRS position...in the PMDG 747 for example, the NAV Buttons should be set to ALIGN to be able to set the IRS Position but there are no such buttons in the Overland A380


You don't need to set or align the IRS position for ISG fitted aircraft.

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...if I set a waypoint, it won't be displayed in the FMC however, if I press the LNAV Button in the MCU, the planes seems to follow the right path even though no path appears in the Navigation Display


Which Navigation Display are you using ?

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2. Area 51 C-17 - do I need any additional add-ons except the iSG Gauges because when I use the panel.cfg from this website, all my gauges are black.


The C-17 gauges were not added until version 1.8, you state you have ver 1.6, if true that is why the gauges are black.

Use ver 1.8.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:55 pm 
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Oh, thanks, I thought the 1.8 version is separate and need to pay again...aaaa, I think the navigation display came with iSG, correct me if I'm wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:17 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
Oh, thanks, I thought the 1.8 version is separate and need to pay again...aaaa, I think the navigation display came with iSG, correct me if I'm wrong.


It comes with 8 Navigation displays, you can just place the one that fits your aircraft in its panel.cfg.

EFS50 style EHSI
A300 style ND
B737 style ND
MD11 style ND
MD80 style EHSI
P1000 style MFD
C17 style MFD
PL4 style MFD

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:23 pm 
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ErnieAlston wrote:
Pesso114 wrote:
Oh, thanks, I thought the 1.8 version is separate and need to pay again...aaaa, I think the navigation display came with iSG, correct me if I'm wrong.


It comes with 8 Navigation displays, you can just place the one that fits your aircraft in its panel.cfg.

EFS50 style EHSI
A300 style ND
B737 style ND
MD11 style ND
MD80 style EHSI
P1000 style MFD
C17 style MFD
PL4 style MFD

Regards.
Ernie.


I think the appropriate one is already placed in the panel.cfg since the cfg file has been modified to suite the Overland A380. Well I think you Sir helped me out to solve my problems...basically I only need to select the departure and arrival airport in the FMC, enter a waypoint and hit the LNAV Button on the FMC?

Thank you very much for your help, forgot to say that :D


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:22 am 
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This is the only problem that I have, the plane flies parallel to the path, is this how it works or it's a bug?

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
This is the only problem that I have, the plane flies parallel to the path, is this how it works or it's a bug?


Might be that the wind is blowing your aircraft off course.

All ISG can do is provide the infomation to the autopilot, its up to the autopilot to fly the commanded
heading.

Though there's nothing in your screenshot that would tell me what course it is supposed to be on, or if you are in
LNAV.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:48 pm 
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There is no wind, the heading is 237, LNAV is pressed in the MCU and so is the HDG Button on the panel. As I said, the HDG that it selects is correct but it doesn't turn to intercept the path, it flies parallel.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:02 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
There is no wind, the heading is 237, LNAV is pressed in the MCU and so is the HDG Button on the panel. As I said, the HDG that it selects is correct but it doesn't turn to intercept the path, it flies parallel.


There are winds, look in the lower right corner of the Nav display in your screenshot.

Its showing winds 314/13, a right crosswind. Though if the winds had a effect, the deviation should be to the left. Your screenshot shows a deviation to the right. Normally when the winds affect the aircraft it turns into the winds, as the FMC will provide a heading towards the track.

But again your screenshot does not give me any indcation of the mode you are in. You say you are in LNAV, but I can't see this
in your screenshot. The FMS is not on thge Legs page, so I can't see what is the active waypoint, the ND is not in map mode, the LNAV button is not displayed.

Only clues i have to work with in your screenshot is that the heading bug is 237 and the CDI needle is to the left.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:37 pm 
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Any idea how to switch the ND in map mode because the Overland A380 doesn't seem to have a button for that (most likely I can't find it)...I'll make some screenshots soon, but trust me, the LNAV is activated.

BTW, will the FMC and LNAV work if I select only the departure and arrival airport? In most of the payware planes, the only waypoint I set is the ICAO of the destination airport...it doesn't seem to work here though.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:27 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
Any idea how to switch the ND in map mode because the Overland A380 doesn't seem to have a button for that (most likely I can't find it).


Use the ISG Boeing style EFIS Control panel, that control panel matches the ND you are using for your screenshot.

See the Boeing 737 or 747 retrofit files for an example on how to install it.

Each ISG ND or EHSI has its own separate Control panel as well.

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BTW, will the FMC and LNAV work if I select only the departure and arrival airport? In most of the payware planes, the only waypoint I set is the ICAO of the destination airport...it doesn't seem to work here though.


It will work with just the departure and destination.

But you may be in VOR mode, that deviation might be a course deviation from a tuned VOR rather than the flight plan track.

But I'm just guessing here.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:53 am 
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Here is a screenshot with everything you asked As you can see, everything is set correctly, in the FMC I inserted only the departure and arrival airports, no waypoints so in the LEGS page nothing appears. The plane flies parallel to the flight path.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:30 pm 
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Pesso114 wrote:
Here is a screenshot with everything you asked As you can see, everything is set correctly, in the FMC I inserted only the departure and arrival airports, no waypoints so in the LEGS page nothing appears. The plane flies parallel to the flight path.



Its doing it correctly.

When Lnav is first turned on , it flies direct to the active waypoint ,It does not fly the track until it reaches the next active waypoint.

Since you only have one waypoint, its flying direct to that waypoint.

This is unlike the default FS GPS which turns directly to the track when GPS mode is turned on, often surprising the pilot at the route it takes to the track.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:36 pm 
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Oh, ok...well thank you very much, it's good to now that the system works fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some help - iSG for Overland A380 and Area 51 C-17
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:44 am 
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Yes that's a nice little detail in LNAV mode. Flying direct to the next waypont instead of flying the programmed path avoids the drastic banking when ATC tells you to "resume own navigation".


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