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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:40 am 
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FSBUILD FLIGHT PLAN
FLT REL IFR KFMN-5/KDEN-35R MACH A/C BE99 BEECH C99/PT6A-36
FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDGWT AVG W/C
TAXI 000100 0010 . . . . 028652 006732 P003
DEST KDEN 021920 0000 . . . . ELEV. 5430 FT
RESV 000079 0045 . . . .
ALTN 000000 0000 . . . . ALTN KAPA DIST 18
HOLD 000000 0000 . . . .
EXTRA 000000 0000 . . . . ZFW 006653 PAYLOAD 001850
TTL AT TO 021999 0000 . . . . DIST 0247
REQD 022099 0000 . . . . ETD

CLB BIAS 0.0% CRZ BIAS 0.0% DSC BIAS 0.0%
DEP BIAS 0 MIN 0 DIST 0 FUEL, ARR BIAS 0 MIN 0 FUEL

KFMN DRO HBU POWDR5 KDEN/0000

M/H FL WIND ATC
TO NM AWY M/C TAS G/S ZT ACTME STA/CODE ACBO ABO REM AREM

N3709.1/W10744.9 032 CLB 146001 DEN
DRO 108.20 033 DCT 031 163 170 00/12 00/12 KFMN/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3722.9/W10741.4 004 CLB 256025 DEN
TOC 014 DCT 011 173 187 00/04 00/16 KDRO/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3827.1/W10702.3 009 210 256025 DEN
HBU 114.90 068 DCT 011 522 537 00/07 00/24 K4V5/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3848.6/W10627.2 040 210 255026 DEN
GRIPP 033 POWDR5 041 522 545 00/03 00/28 KGUC/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3912.3/W10547.9 041 210 255026 DEN
BASEE 039 POWDR5 042 523 544 00/04 00/32 K2V9/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3917.4/W10539.4 039 210 267024 DEN
SKEED 007 POWDR5 041 522 541 00/00 00/33 KLXV/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3920.5/W10534.1 040 210 267024 DEN
COLAS 004 POWDR5 042 522 541 00/00 00/33 KLXV/ 0000/... 0219/...

N3923.9/W10529.4 045 210 263023 DEN
TOD 005 POWDR5 047 522 542 00/00 00/34 KC96/ 0001/... 0218/...

N3923.7/W10528.8 000 DSC 263023 DEN
POWDR 000 POWDR5 047 0-10 000 00/00 00/00 KC96/ 0001/... 0218/...

N3935.0/W10509.5 000 CLB 172006 DEN
HLLIE 018 POWDR5 040 00 003 06/00 00/00 KAPA/ 0219/... 0000/...

N3947.6/W10447.8 043 210 270024 DEN
SLOPE 020 POWDR5 044 522 541 00/02 00/00 KAPA/ 0219/... 0000/...

N3951.5/W10440.0 041 DSC 270024 DEN
KDEN 006 POWDR5 043 522 541 00/00 00/00 KDNR/ 0219/... 0000/...


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(FPL-=IS
-BE99
-ZZZZ-KFMN0000
-N0542210 KFMN DRO HBU POWDR5 KDEN
-KDEN0000 KAPA
-)


Can someone tell me pls what's up with 21920kg of fuel for a Beech turboprop for 50 min flight :?:



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:00 am 
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Hi Igor,

I generated the same route on my puter and came up with the same problem, 30.000+ fuel.

KFMN PLATA1 DRO HBU.POWDR5 KDEN

I then BUILD a route using the way points of the required POWDR5 arrival instead of using the FSBUILD HBU.POWDR5 input and only require around 900+ of fuel

KFMN PLATA1 DRO HBU GRIPP BASEE SKEED COLAS POWDR HLLIE SLOPE KDEN.

The problem seems to be around this part of the flight plan route:

N3920.5/W10534.1 039 250 273034 DEN
COLAS 004 POWDR5 042 432 457 00/00 00/42 .../... 0001/... 0330/...

N3923.9/W10529.4 044 250 271035 DEN
TOD 005 POWDR5 047 432 461 00/00 00/42 .../... 0001/... 0330/...

N3923.7/W10528.8 000 DSC 271035 DEN
POWDR 000 POWDR5 047 0-14 000 00/00 00/00 .../... 0001/... 0330/...

N3935.0/W10509.5 000 CLB 174005 DEN
HLLIE 018 POWDR5 040 00 002 09/00 00/00 .../... 0324/... 0006/...

N3947.6/W10447.8 041 250 276037 DEN
SLOPE 020 POWDR5 044 432 459 00/02 00/00 .../... 0324/... 0006/...

N3951.5/W10440.0 039 DSC 276037 DEN
KDEN 006 POWDR5 043 432 459 00/00 00/00 .../... 0325/... 0005/...


If you look, it reaches TOD after COLAS then for some strange reason climbs back up again after HLLIE until it reaches 250 again, then decends into KDEN?

As a guess, HBU.POWDR5 has a wrong input somewhere, but where, I dont know as it follows the correct route.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:47 am 
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The wrong input is in the POWDR5 arrival.

edit your fsb_stars.txt file to DELETE the 19000 altitude restriction at POWDR.

That cures the problem.

Steve

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The problem sounds like one that occured a while back.

I'm not able to reproduce it in my 2.2.2 version though.

Regards.
Ernie.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:16 am 
:? I don't know guys, I built the same flt plan before and the fuel fig were right, just about 800kg.



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