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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Greetings all,

I just tried running a flight plan thru FSB, using the PMDG MD11. This was the response.....obviously, there's a problem with the planned fuel load. How do I correct this? Many thanks.....Ron

FSBUILD FLIGHT PLAN
BLOCK TIMES FLIGHT TIMES FUEL

IN . . . . . ON . . . . TAKEOFF . . . .
OUT . . . . . OFF . . . . LANDING . . . .
TOTAL . . . . . TOTAL . . . . BURNOFF . . . .

FLT REL IFR KLAX-25R/KATL-27L MACH 825 A/C PMDG MD-11 GE CF6-80C2
FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDGWT AVG W/C
TAXI 001500 0010 . . . . 00000-1 00000-1 P051
DEST KATL 00000-1 000 . . . . ELEV. 1026 FT
RESV 00000-1 0030 . . . .
ALTN 000000 0000 . . . . ALTN KBHM DIST 116
HOLD 00000-1 0030 . . . .
EXTRA 00000-1 0030 . . . . ZFW 429995 PAYLOAD 156622
TTL AT TO 00000-1 000 . . . . DIST 1778
REQD 00000-1 000 . . . . ETD

CLB BIAS 0.0% CRZ BIAS 0.0% DSC BIAS 0.0%
DEP BIAS 0 MIN 0 DIST 0 FUEL, ARR BIAS 0 MIN 0 FUEL

HOLTZ9 TRM NABOB J231 ACH PNH J6 IRW FSM MEM.ERLIN9/000


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:10 pm 
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You need to search the forum for "MD-11" or "MD11" and download and use the profile you'll find in one of the threads - if you do, you'll see something like this:

FLT REL IFR KLAX-25R/KATL-27L MACH A/C MD11 W/ PW4460
FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDGWT AVG W/C
TAXI 001200 0010 . . . . 536842 471937 P045
DEST KATL 064905 0327 . . . . ELEV. 1026 FT
RESV 012900 0045 . . . .
ALTN 004515 0015 . . . . ALTN KBHM DIST 116
HOLD 000000 0000 . . . .
EXTRA 005000 0017 . . . . ZFW 449522 PAYLOAD 156622
TTL AT TO 087320 0444 . . . . DIST 1778
REQD 088520 0454 . . . . ETD

CLB BIAS 0.0% CRZ BIAS 0.0% DSC BIAS 0.0%
DEP BIAS 0 MIN 0 DIST 0 FUEL, ARR BIAS 0 MIN 300 FUEL

DJ


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:15 pm 
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DJ,

This is what I currently have in my fsb_Aircraft file. Let me know if anything looks incorrect. Thanks.

[PMDG MD-11 GE CF6-80C2] --- (B.Schleipen) ---
WeightUnit=LBS
OperEmptyWeight=273373
PayloadWeight=156622
ReserveFuel=:30
AlternateFuel=
HoldFuel=:30
ExtraFuel=:30
TaxiFuel=1500
ApproachFuel=
MaxTakeoffWeight=630500
MaxZeroFuelWeight=451300
MaxLandingWeight=471500
MaxFuelWeight=256235
ImageFile=PMDGMD11.jpg
PerformanceData=PMDG_MD-11_GE.prf
ToldData=
DefaultTOFlaps=15
DefaultLDGFlaps=35
MachCruise=825
ClimbFuelbias=0.0
CruiseFuelbias=0.0
DescentFuelbias=0.0


[PMDG MD-11F GE CF6-80C2] --- (B.Schleipen) ---
WeightUnit=LBS
OperEmptyWeight=250996
PayloadWeight=156622
ReserveFuel=:30
AlternateFuel=
HoldFuel=:30
ExtraFuel=:30
TaxiFuel=1500
ApproachFuel=
MaxTakeoffWeight=630500
MaxZeroFuelWeight=451300
MaxLandingWeight=471500
MaxFuelWeight=256235
ImageFile=PMDGMD11.jpg
PerformanceData=PMDG_MD-11_GE.prf
ToldData=
DefaultTOFlaps=15
DefaultLDGFlaps=35
MachCruise=825
ClimbFuelbias=0.0
CruiseFuelbias=0.0
DescentFuelbias=0.0


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:20 pm 
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The culprit would probably have to be the performance file (.prf)

Post that file, and we'll take a look.

Regards
Ernie.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:21 pm 
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Hi Ernie,

I posted it just before you had responded. Is that what you meant, or did you need something else?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:48 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:58 pm 
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Hmmmmm, this is interesting. I searched for .prf files, came up with many options (all in the FSb/aircraft folder). I see one for the default MD11, but none for the PMDG ones. That might explain it right there. Now what?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:40 pm 
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OK.....but I thought the PMDG .prf file had different numbers, more closely resembling the actual performance data.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Ok - I had to do some research on this because there are several MD-11 profiles floating around out there. For the one you are after, go to Flightsim.com and search the library using the term "Schleipen" and it will come up. It is explicitly for the PMDG GE engined plane...

DJ


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:00 pm 
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Thanks, DJ and Ernie,

Found and downloaded that file. I actually already had a similar item pasted to the bottom of my existing fsb_aircraft file. It was also by B. Schleipen, and had 2 variations (pax and freighter). The numbers in my existing files were close to the new one, but not exact. The obvious issue was that I didnt have that .prf file.

Aren't the numbers different for the pax and freighter versions?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:43 pm 
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The numbers should be somewhat different, but the profiles are good enough for our purposes since the engine specs and aerodynamics are identical for the PMDG models. If you want to be a bit more accurate, you can add about 20000 pounds to the ZFW shown in FSBuild when you use the freighter.

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