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 Post subject: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:38 am 
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I am new to FS Build and I am trying to understand the process for compiling a route accross the Atlantic.

I have seen the tutorial video which is pretty straightforward.

However,I would like clarification on the following process.

When I go into FS Build and enter the route say EGLL to KJFK do I press auto generate first and then complete the Atlantic Tracks process afterwards or is it vice versa.

I would appreciate clarification of the proper way to do this.

Many thanks in anticipation.


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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:27 am 
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Read this tutorial... http://www.fsbuild.com/fsbtut/nats_tut.htm

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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:05 pm 
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stratfordman wrote:
When I go into FS Build and enter the route say EGLL to KJFK do I press auto generate first and then complete the Atlantic Tracks process afterwards or is it vice versa.


You do them together.

Use the wildcard character '*' to force the autogenerator to generatea routes around the NAT tracks.

Example.

KJFK * CYMON TRACK_W DOLIP * EGLL
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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Many thanks for your reply.

I am obviously new to FS Build so please forgive me my ignorance.

Firstly I have looked at the video and the notes and to a point understand the process.

Please confirm that this process is correct;

1.I enter departure and arrival airports
2.I auto generate the flight plan as usual and press build.
3.Then go through the North Atlantic Tracks process until the flight plan is shown in the flight plan box.
4.I then see a message 'draw route on map'-I am not sure what this means.

What I need to know is following on from action 1 and 2 and then having gone through the North Atlantic Track process do I need to press 'auto generate' again or do I just come out of FS Build having completed the whole process.

I am really sorry if the answer is obvious but I just want to get it right in order for it to be right in Pro Flight Emulator.

I thank you in anticipation.


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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:47 pm 
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stratfordman wrote:
Many thanks for your reply.

I am obviously new to FS Build so please forgive me my ignorance.

Firstly I have looked at the video and the notes and to a point understand the process.

Please confirm that this process is correct;

1.I enter departure and arrival airports
2.I auto generate the flight plan as usual and press build.
3.Then go through the North Atlantic Tracks process until the flight plan is shown in the flight plan box.
4.I then see a message 'draw route on map'-I am not sure what this means.

What I need to know is following on from action 1 and 2 and then having gone through the North Atlantic Track process do I need to press 'auto generate' again or do I just come out of FS Build having completed the whole process.

I am really sorry if the answer is obvious but I just want to get it right in order for it to be right in Pro Flight Emulator.

I thank you in anticipation.



You don't have to do all that, if you enter it all in manually in the 'Flight Plan' box.


1) Enter the Departure and Destination in the blue flight plan box

KJFK EGLL

The departure and destination boxes will populate automatically.

2) Enter the NAT segment between the Departure and destination

KJFK VALIE TRAKW SOVED EGLL

(You can go to the NAT tab to see what route segment to manually insert)

3) Enter the wildcard character '*' where you wish the autogenerator to generate the rest of the route.

KJFK * VALIE TRAKW SOVED * EGLL

(when the wildcard characters are there, the autogenerator will only generate a route where the wildcard characters are
keeping the rest of the route in tact.)

4) Press the Autogenerate button.

In general manually entry is faster, as you can just put everything in the Flight Plan box and press "Build' or 'Autogenerate'


The tutorial shows Plan mode which allows you see visually the route being entered. But this process has more steps and takes longer.

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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Hi Ernie,

Many thanks for your reply.

I have read your instructions and I am still a little bit puzzled.
I enter Dep/arr airports in blue box-no problem.I then click on the North Atlantic Tracks button at the bottom and select any East bound track.

I chose one that gave me the following Valie Scrod 56/50 57/40 57/30 56/20 Pikil Soved.

What I do not understand is the 'wildcard character'-what is this and what do I do with it?
I apologise if I appear a little thick but I just want to ensure that I get this right.

Look forward to your reply.

Michael


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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:41 am 
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stratfordman wrote:
Hi Ernie,

Many thanks for your reply.

I have read your instructions and I am still a little bit puzzled.
I enter Dep/arr airports in blue box-no problem.I then click on the North Atlantic Tracks button at the bottom and select any East bound track.

I chose one that gave me the following Valie Scrod 56/50 57/40 57/30 56/20 Pikil Soved.

What I do not understand is the 'wildcard character'-what is this and what do I do with it?
I apologise if I appear a little thick but I just want to ensure that I get this right.


Enter the track as below. The entry point (VALIE) the track (TRAKW) and the exit point (SOVED)

KJFK VALIE TRAKW SOVED EGLL

Then add the wildcard character between KJFK and VALIE

KJFK * VALIE...

This tells the autogenerator to generate a route segment only between KJFK and VALIE.

Then add the 2nd wildcard character

SOVED * EGLL

This tell the autogenerator to build a route segment only between SOVED and EGLL.

KJFK * VALIE TRAKW SOVED * EGLL

The blue text below shows the route the autogenerator made.

KJFK BETTE HTO J55 ENE J55 PQI J582 YZV RR2 YGV VALIE TRAKW SOVED NIBOG UN551 NURSI UN551 BEL UL10 HON BNN2A EGLL

Notice how the position of the blue text matches where the wildcard characters were ?

Notice it created a route while keeping the North Atlanic track in the flight plan ?

The wildcard allows you to specify what part of the plan is to be autogenerated.

So if you want to use a specific North Atlantic track, you enter it in the flight plan, then put wildcards around it. The autogenerator then builds a complete flight plan including your specified track.

If you do not use wldcards it will ignore all entries and build a complete route of its choosing.

Regards.
Ernie.

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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:24 pm 
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Many thanks Ernie,

I now understand,I appreciate your help.

Michael


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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:12 am 
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Hi again Ernie,

Many thanks for all your previuos help in relation to this iussue.

I have just gone back into FS Build to again plan a flight KJFK to EGLL.

Firstly I entered the departure and arrival airports then in the blue flight plan box I manually entered the track which is KJFK*CYMON TRACKW DOLIP*EGLL.
I then pressed 'auto generate' and then the flight plan box was populated with the following flight plan;

KJFK MERIT3. PUT J581 ENE J573 YYG T105 YQX 5047N 5240N 6332N 5315N LESLU UN514 DIDEL 1BON KENET.BNNID EGLL

I am just concerned that Cymon nor Dolip showed up in this flight plan.

Therefore I am wondering if you could tell me where I may have gone wrong.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Michael


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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:52 am 
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stratfordman wrote:
Hi again Ernie,
Firstly I entered the departure and arrival airports then in the blue flight plan box I manually entered the track which is KJFK*CYMON TRACKW DOLIP*EGLL.
I then pressed 'auto generate' and then the flight plan box was populated with the following flight plan;


Michael


You need to have spaces around the wildcards, or the whole text is treated as one ID.

KJFK * CYMON TRACKW DOLIP * EGLL

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 Post subject: Re: North Atlantic Tracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:30 pm 
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THanks Again for youir reply,

I have taken your advice and now the attached flight plan is produced;

KJFK MERIT3.PUT J581 YJT YDF CYMON TRACKW DOLIP SLANY UL9 BASET KENET. BNNID EGLL

Including the 2 airports I have 23 points in my route listed below my above flight plan.

Does this flight plan sound OK to you.

I really appreciate your help in this matter.

Look forward to your confirmation.

Michael


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